Salut à tous,

j'aimerais avoir un retour sur vos experiences pistes avec vos différent reglages

-assiette de la voiture

-hauteur AV AR(preciser l'endroit de prise de hauteur)

-carrossage AV AR si réglable

-pince AV AR

-chasse si reglable

-tarage ressorts AV AR

-masse du véhicule et repartition si vous l'avez.

- pneus utilisés sur piste et pression à chaud et à froid.

au dela des valeurs de géo , le ressentie pilote serait le bienvenu:

voiture efficace mais delicate à la limite, etc......

merci pour vos renseignements par avance

j'ai trouvé ça:

Everyone wants a better handling car and a ride height to fit their needs. So I put together a little list of popular suspension items and kits. There are tons of suspension options, this is just a short list of the more popular items.

Springs

The stock springs shouldn’t wear out, but if you want a stiffer spring or lowering springs, here is a list of the more popular springs.

H&R

OE Sports- A stiffer spring than stock with a small amount of drop.

Drop: 0.75” Front, 0.3” Rear

Spring Rate: 200 lb Front, 380 lb Rear *

Sports- A stiffer spring than stock with a larger amount of drop than OE Sports.

Drop: 1.2” Front, 1.0” Rear

Spring Rate: 200 lb Front, 380 lb Rear *

Race- A very stiff spring for the street, and the lowest drop from H&R

Drop: 2.2” Front, 1.3” Rear

Spring Rate: 345 lb Front, 515 lb Rear *

Eibach

Pro-Kit- Stiffer than H&R Sports, but may ride softer than H&R Sports.

Drop: 1.0” Front, 0.8” Rear

Spring Rate: 148 lb Front, 428 lb Rear *

SportLine- Lower than Pro-kit, but softer than H&R Race.

Drop: 1.8” Front, 1.5” Rear

Note: Only 3 series applications, not M3

Spring Pads

There are 3 sized spring pads available through BMW. You can use spring pads to adjust the height of the rear springs.

5 mm pad (33 53 1 136 385)

7.5 mm pad (33 53 1 136 386)

10 mm pad (33 53 1 136 387)

Shocks

The stock shocks on E36 cars are short lived. If you have more than 50k miles, I would start looking for replacements. Here is a list of the more popular replacements.

Koni

Single Adjustable- Rebound adjustable, thus allows you to match them up to almost any spring. At their softest setting they are close to stock, on the hardest setting they are harder than Bilstein Sports.

Note: Installation is not bolt on. You must cut your stock shock bodies and install the Koni insert into them. This is only for the M3’s, 3 series come ready to bolt on.

Bilstein

Sport- Non adjustable. Bolt-in replacements. Bilstein shocks are a lot stiffer than stock.

Note: Bilstein’s tend to raise the car 0.25-0.5” due to their high-pressure design.

Coilovers

H&R

H&R springs paired with Bilstein shocks. They are height adjustable, but not rebound. H&R Coilovers are probably the most popular choice.

Drop: 1.5 – 2.5” Front, 1.0 – 1.75” Rear

Spring Rates: 340 lb Front, 380 lb Rear *

Koni

Uses H&R springs on Koni SA dampeners. They are height adjustable in the front, rear height is fixed, but are rebound adjustable.

Drop: 1.5 – 2.2” Front, approx. 1.0” Rear

Spring Rates: 342 lb Front, 407 lb Rear *

KW & FK

HighSport

Height adjustable only, no rebound. Both are relatively new to the market, so not much info on them.

Drop: 57mm-70mm

KonigSport

Height adjustable and Rebound adjustable.

Drop: Similar to HighSport

Spring Rate: 400 lb Front, 420 lb Rear

Note: Both FK and KW use 60lb tender springs to meet TUV droop regulations. Because of this a spacer might be needed on some wheel and tire applications.

Ground Control

Street kit Your choice of spring rates and a set of adjustable perches, matched to Koni SA shocks.

Drop: 1.0” – 2.5” Front, 1.0 – 2.0” Rear

Spring Rates: Custom designed rates

Track/School Koni single adjustable struts in Ground Control shortened strut housings, custom spring rates, and height adjusters.

Drop: 1.0” – 2.5” Front, 1.0 – 2.0” Rear

Spring Rates: Custom designed rates

Bilstein

PSS Height adjustable only, no rebound adjustment.

Drop: 1.5 – 2.5” Front, 1.0 – 1.75” Rear

PSS9 Height and Rebound adjustable.

Drop: 1.5 – 2.5” Front, 1.0 – 1.75” Rear

Spring Rate: 450 front, 480 rear

Note: The PSS and PSS9 are designed to run on 3 series cars, not M3’s. To put them on an M3, you will need 3 series front sway bar links to connect to the control arm, a 325/328 front sway bar, and possibly a front spacer.

Rear Shock Mounts

The stock RSM’s are wear items and need to be inspected approx. 40k miles. If you are running stiffer spring and shocks or coilovers it would be a good idea to go with an upgraded RSM.

Ground Control

It’s an improved design over stock mounts, uses polyurethane bushings and strong construction. The mounts come with a lifetime warranty. Because of their design they allow removal of the mount from the fender well, a must for Koni SA users. Maybe a slight increase in NVH.

JTD

Again an improved design over the stock mounts. JTD uses a rubber bushing and strong construction. The mounts come with a lifetime warranty. The newly redesigned mount now allows the same fender well access as the Ground Control mounts. Maybe a slight increase in NVH.

E46 Mounts with Z3 Plates

A better design than the E36 mount, it has rubber mounts and slightly strong construction. It has conventional mounting bolts, so removal is only through the trunk. They Z3 plates help to reinforce the E46 mount; these are a good idea if you go with the stock style mount and have upgraded shocks.

Strut Tower Braces

Strut Tower Braces help stiffen the châssis of the car, which will translate to a better handling car.

OEM LTW Brace

A hingless design, it was original equipment on the 95 LTW M3.

Note: It can only be used on cars without ASC, Only the Front bar.

JTD

The front and rear brace is a solid hingless design. This JTD Front Strut Tower Brace will fit the E36 equipped with traction control.

Strong Strut

A newly developed bar which features hingless construction. Front bar only, fits both ASC equipped cars and not.

Active Autowerke

AA offers front and rear braces, but are a hinged design. AA bars fit both ASC equipped cars and not. Hinged bars are not as effective as non-hinged bars.

Dinan

Dinan offers front and rear braces, and also uses a hinged design. Dinan bars fit ASC and non-ASC cars.

X Brace

This is a great upgrade for any 3 series. The X brace stiffens the cars châssis and provides better turn in. A great place to start suspension mods.

Rear Trailing Arm Bushings (RTABS)

These are also wear items and should be checked every 30-40k miles. These are some of the more popular options to go with.

Stock bushings

The stock bushings are perfectly fine for a street application, though they should be checked on every 30-40k miles.

Note: 95 M3’s should go ahead and use the 96+ bushing. The 96+ has more metal supporting the rubber mount and is a revised design of the 95 mount. Also they must be pressed into the triling arm

Ground Control RTAB Enforcers

These are Derlin supports which mount on either side of the stock bushing and help add some support to the bushing. These are a good idea if you go with stock bushings.

Powerflex

These are polyurethane mounts that can be easily installed. Because of their ploy construction, they will transmit more NVH than the stock rubber bushings.

AA RTABS

These are for the hardcore track person. They are a solid monoball mount. The AA mount will transmit more NVH into the car. These are probably left to turbo cars and hardcore track cars.

Sway Bars

Sway bars are used to add or lessen roll stiffness. By changing the roll stiffness you change the cars handling (understeer, neutral, oversteer).

UUC

Makes M3 spec bars, these should only be used on an M3 or 3 series with M3 struts.

Adjustment Holes - 3 Front, 2 Rear

Bar thickness - 25.4mm Front, 23.8mm Rear. *

Racing Dynamics

They make one size bar for 3 and M3 spec cars.

Adjustment Holes - 2 Front, 2 Rear

Bar thickness - 27mm Front, 24mm Rear.

Eibach

Makes both 3 series spec bars and M3 spec bars.

Adjustment Holes - 2 Front, 2 Rear

Bar thickness - 26mm Front, 24mm Rear. *

Camber Adjustments

Front

Front camber is not adjustable in stock form. But there are many things you can do to add negative camber in front.

Crash Bolts

You'll need two crash bolts, BMW P/N 07-11-9-900-587 list $1.27 these replace the top strut to spindle assembly bolts, one on each side.

Strut Shims

For Shims go to Loews the specialty fastener section you'll need one bag of four, Grade 8 Hardened 7/16th washers, one of these go between the strut and spindle assembly on the two lower strut bolts, two on each side

96+ M3 Strut hat swap

All that is required with the 96+ strut bearings is left to right and right to left switch(after swap bearing marked L will be passenger side and R on drivers side). Mount with the arrows pointing forward.

Camber Plates

KMAC

Can be used with stock sized springs. Previous designs had problems with slipping, but the new design has cured that. They use a rubber bushing in the front so there is no extra NVH.

Ground Control

Can only be used with coilover type springs. The race plates use a solid bushing while the hybrid plates use a rubber bushing. The solid mount will make more NVH, the hybrid plate will not.

TC Kline

They works equally well with stock or aftermarket struts and coilover conversions. Uses a stock monoball mount, so there will be an increase in NVH.

HIOP Plates

Monoball design with bushings to match shock diameter. The monoball bearing is "potted" in hard urethane for isolation and a slight increase in NVH. These can be used with either stock sized springs or coilover sized springs.

Rear

Rear camber is adjustable in stock form. With a moderate drop you should be able to get the rear camber back into spec. If you cannot get it back into spec, here are a few choices.

Active Autowerke

Allows adjustment ranging from -5.0 to +5.0 degrees, stronger than stock, and uses a solid mount.

Rogue Engineering

Allows adjustment from +1.0 to -3.0 degrees, tubular arm, mounts with rubber bushings.

TC Kline

monoball joint rear lower arms that replace the factory rubber bushings which can create play in the rear suspension. A more serious track ready part, not best for street use.

Front Control Arms

Stock Arms

OEM replacements are fine for street and track.

Note: 95 and 96+ arms are différent, and the bushings they use are différent also.

E30 Arms

The E30 arms can be used on E36’s, they are made of aluminum and are lighter than E36 arms. These are really need for the racer looking to save every amount of weight possible.

Note:The E30 Arms can only be used on 95 M3's.

Bushings

Stock

Constructed of rubber, strong and durable. These are the best replacements for street and track.

Note:95 and 96+ cars use différent bushings. 96+ bushings are not as strong and are centered not offset like 95’s.

Powerflex

Polyurethane construction, because of this they will transmit more NVH.

Note: Because of the 96+ construction, in a track situation they might not be durable enough. The 96+ bushings have holes cut into them, and they might not be strong enough if an off track excursion happens.

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Salut à tous,

j'aimerais avoir un retour sur vos experiences pistes avec vos différent reglages le probleme c'est que justement chacuns a ses reglages favoris , et qu'il ne conviennent pas souvent au autres...

-assiette de la voiture le plus horizontale possible , eviter d'avoir trop de "rake" (nez plongeant) ça rend le vehicule survireur

-hauteur AV AR(preciser l'endroit de prise de hauteur)encore un fois ça depend de l'usage de la voiture , en theorie le plus bas est le mieux

-carrossage AV AR si réglable pour un usage mixte route/piste le max des tolérances constructeur ,si quasi piste pure , plus , en encore , ça depend du type de circuit

-pince AV AR le max des tolérances constructeur au moins pour l'arriere , ça favorise la motricité

-chasse si reglable plus il y en a plus le vehicule est stable a haute vitesse , mais plus la direction est lourde aussi

-tarage ressorts AV AR tout depend de l'usage et du poids de la voiture

-masse du véhicule et repartition si vous l'avez. av /ar = 670/620 avec 30 litre de carburant et moi dedans (70kg)

- pneus utilisés sur piste et pression à chaud et à froid. toyo r888 pression a chaud 2.5/2.4

au dela des valeurs de géo , le ressentie pilote serait le bienvenu:

voiture efficace mais délicate à la limite, etc......

merci pour vos renseignements par avance

pour moi réglages très typés , véhicule très efficace en enchainement de virage , par contre instable à hautes vitesses (+220)

bon ça en est ou ces reglages :?

et ces fameux amortisseur Nitron , arrivés ???

bon ça en est ou ces reglages

et ces fameux amortisseur Nitron , arrivés ???

bah justement toujours pas disponible, font chier ces britishs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!