3 minutes ago, fredz72 said:

Je ne te parle pas des deux personnes que je connais qui ont acheté là....il y a des choses à dire...et pas vraiment positives.

Il serait pourtant intéressant de partager ces retours d'expérience si cela n'est pas confidentiel.

La méfiance est effectivement de mise avec eux, mais un peu comme avec tout marchand de véhicules de manière plus générale.

à l’instant, z3m a dit :

Il serait pourtant intéressant de partager ces retours d'expérience si cela n'est pas confidentiel.

La méfiance est effectivement de mise avec eux, mais un peu comme avec tout marchand de véhicules de manière plus générale.

Avec tout garagiste oui, mais là particulièrement, les deux cas dont je parle, ont dû faire appel à leur protection juridique pour régler les problèmes.

Comme je ne suis pas le concerné, je préfère ne pas donner plus de détails.

Il y a 1 heure, KOOMICHRIS a dit :

59K CHF ca fait combien rendu au pays de voltaire?

Il y a 2 heures, KOOMICHRIS a dit :

59K CHF ca fait combien rendu au pays de voltaire?

Il faut s'acqitter de la TVA francaise de 20% et de droits de douanes de 10%. L'opération devient très onéreuse 🥴

il y a 34 minutes, Stefan2M4 a dit :

Il faut s'acqitter de la TVA francaise de 20% et de droits de douanes de 10%. L'opération devient très onéreuse 🥴

Tu oublie de déduire la TVA Suisse si tu achètes chez un professionnel (8.1%), donc tu ne rajoute pas 30%.

Certains de vos compatriotes trouvent tout de même des occasions intéressantes ici.

Un copain français en a déjà acheté deux en Suisse.

Apparemment ce qui attire, véhicule entretenu et souvent bien optionnés.

Aussi l'offre, comme pour l'exemple de la M3 Touring, je ne sais pas combien sont à vendre pour toute la France, mais ici, 190 sur autoscout24.ch et quand je vois l'annonce qui a été partagé de celle à 90'000€ vendue par un particulier, même avec les taxes, tu peux regarder en Suisse et trouver des annonces comparatives.

Maintenant je ne sais pas si vos dirigeants vous ont pondu de nouvelles taxes sur les véhicules importés.

Oui bien sur, tu ne paies la TVA francaise que sur un prix de vente HT Suisse...mais au final, tu t'en sors pour 72000€ hors carte grise / malus

Il y a 2 heures, Stefan2M4 a dit :

Oui bien sur, tu ne paies la TVA francaise que sur un prix de vente HT Suisse...mais au final, tu t'en sors pour 72000€ hors carte grise / malus

Je ne parle pas d'une annonce précise et moi je m"en fiche, je ne suis pas vendeur auto 😁

Mais comme je l'ai écrit, certains trouvent que c'est tout de même intéressant, j'avais vendu une 309 16S à un de vos compatriotes et ma dernière 530xd à aussi failli partir chez vous.

On 3/4/2026 at 11:03 PM, z3m said:

Un beau Z3M : https://www.autoscout24.ch/fr/d/bmw-z3-m-roadster-swiss-car-1st-hand-bmw-individual-1-of-1-in-the-world-12736914?

CHF 59'900.–
05.2000
Essence
44'535 km

Prix baissé à CHF 49'900.–

Le 25/03/2026 à 21:56, z3m a dit :

Prix baissé à CHF 49'900.–

10'000 balles de moins, quelle crédibilité 🤣🤣🤣

Après on me dit que c'est compliqué de négocier 😁

Une belle 850 CSi : https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1938726

GBP 82'000

Right Hand Drive

45'554 Miles

Manual, 6 speed

Petrol

5'576cc

1996

VRN THE850

Purple

Private seller

Eastleigh, United Kingdom

Between June 1993 and October 1996 BMW produced 1510 BMW 850CSi's. 
1350 Left Hand drive and a mere 160 in Right. 

This particular 850CSi now offered for sale is the very last Right Hand Drive to be produced. 
It completed build: June 12th 1996 and was first registered: September 26th 1996.

Overall this Vehicle is in very good condition throughout, showing no signs that would indicate even a normal level of use. Thankfully having been garaged for 18 years (out of the 22 years I've owned this vehicle) the overall exposure to the elements, and to the effects of UV light, has been particularly low. 
This reflecting greatly in condition.

All of the vehicles systems are fully functional and operate as the manufacturer designed and intended, without snags, glitches or delay.

This BMW 'individual specification' vehicle boasts Lotus White leather front and rear seats, Black and Lotus White leather door panelling and rear side panels. The rear centre arm rest clad in Black leather.
The silver grey passenger compartment carpeting (including matching original BMW fitted front and rear mats) is continued through into the luggage area. The Alcantara headlining being anthracite in colour.

THIS 850CSi COMES COMPLETE WITH THE FOLLOWING: -
• Leather document/ handbook wallet.
• The Owners handbook.
• Supplementary owners handbook.
• BMW professional RDS Radio operating instructions book.
• Service booklet.
• Dealer warranty and Emergency service handbook (Detailing original Dealer, of which is: Lind Ltd. of Norwich).
• European service station 95/ 96 and 96/ 97 booklets.
• BMW warranty renewal handbook.
• Three original BMW keys [Two remote control + One non-remote (grey) key].
• Multi Function Information Display [fully functional - no missing / defective LCD segments].
• Glovebox Torch [Vehicles own original working Rechargeable unit (replacement cells fitted)].
• First Aid Kit [BMW original & Unopened].
• BMW Boot lid Tool Kit [Original & Complete].
• Side Jack [Vehicles own original BMW part].
• Warning Triangle [Vehicles own original BMW part].
• BMW Radio Pass/ Code card, Window warning stickers and Radio pass code card holder.
• Factory applied warning sticker located; Top Left Hand corner of Windscreen, advising [Airbag(s) fitted to vehicle].
• Factory applied sticker located; Top Right Hand corner of Windscreen, detailing [Vehicle running-in instructions].
• Factory applied sticker on instrument cluster, detailing [Unleaded premium grade petrol of min. 95 octane].

ONBOARD EQUIPMENT IS AS FOLLOWS (as specified at time of order): -
• Front passenger Airbag.
• Sports Leather Steering Wheel.
• Tilt/ Sliding Sunroof [Electric].
• Rear Window Sun blind [Electric].
• Electrically adjustable Sports front seats with Electrically adjustable leg support [Driver seat - Three position Memory].
• Headlight Washer System with intense cleaning.
• Automatic Air Recirculation Control (AUC).
• BMW Professional Radio with Diversity Radio Receiver.
• BMW 6 Disc CD changer.
• HiFi Loudspeaker System.

STANDARD 8 SERIES FITMENTS: -
• Drivers Airbag.
• Servotronic.
• Dynamic Drive Package.
• Steering Column Adjustment [Electric].
• Park Ventilation.
• Cruise Control.
• 3rd Stop Light.
(Standard & Optional equipment lists have been taken from a BMW produced document and will be included within the vehicles document pack).

Vehicle Imperfections: -
1). Bonnet - O/ S front corner (the small flat section that extends forward and to the side of the headlight aperture). Following a scratch repair.
2). Passenger door - Along the bottom edge, extending towards the quarter panel; following the repair of a light scratch.
3). Drivers door - Surface corrosion along the bottom inner edge of the door, (this can be seen in one of the supplied close-up images). Please note; this corrosion is not 'through panel' and as a result the integrity of the door / panel is not compromised. Additional note; this corrosion is not visible along the outer edge of the door panel and therefore is not visible whilst the door is closed.
4). There are five very small localised spots of corrosion around the outer most edge of the solid (non Glass) sunroof, I have taken a photograph specifically detailing this (zooming in will allow you to see in more detail).
5). The one and only, what may be described as a leak (in this case a periodic drip,) emerges from the front / leading edge of the Bell housing. The leak, that of Engine Oil, relates to (and as a result of) the rear Crankshaft oil seal. This amounts to a very small quantity over a particularly prolonged period of time. As this "singular source" leak / weep is miniscule, (and a "non intrusive" operation regards rectification (in relation to the replacement of a clutch, removal of the flywheel would reveal the specific oil seal in question)) it's something that in miles / years to come would see this familiar and routinely dealt with symptôme rectified.
. HISTORY
Alongside myself there has been three other keepers. 
I believe 'Lind Ltd. (BMW Norwich) to have been the first, and myself six years on, purchasing this vehicle on the 18th of November 2002.

During my ownership I have performed all servicing and maintenance myself. These works religiously carried out to an impeccably high standard and on a "No expense spared" approach. 
Attention to detail, seen as there's no reason to be anything other than meticulous, ensures 100% accuracy from start to finish. Having no 'commercial workshop' time constraints and / or targets, of which have to be harmoniously adhered to, facilitates this undoubtedly.

With both valid and strong reasons for adopting an "owner maintained" approach comes down to one unequivocal component; attention to detail. 
Have this, and you have all bases covered; Workmanship, through to piece-of-mind. This to me is both "Service" and "History. 
With over 35 years experience maintaining and servicing vehicles, and a time-served engineer, sees me capable and confident when undertaking these tasks and indeed many more.

SERVICE POINTS ACTIONED: -
• Engine Oil and Filter.
• Engine Air Filters (2 of).
• Engine Coolant (Antifreeze and De-mineralised water).
• Spark Plugs (12 of).
• Central Hydraulic System (Central Hydraulic Fluid; serves Brake Booster (servo), Power Steering and Rear Wheel Steering (AHK) system).
• Central Hydraulic System; filters/ strainers cleaned.
• Brake Fluid; including the flushing of.
• Clutch Fluid; including the flushing of.
• Gearbox Oil; drain and replace.
• Rear Differential Oil; flush and replace.
• Fuel Filters; replaced (2 of).
• Cabin Pollen Filters; replaced (2 of).
• Wiper Blades; refills fitted to retain original BMW wiper carriers/ arms (2 of).

LIST DETAILING PARTS / ITEMS RECENTLY REPLACED (non service): -
• Multi Function Display (MFD) within cockpit [a new BMW original part].
• Fuel Pumps (2 of) [Bosch].
• Fuel Pump Mounts / Suspension rubbers (for above pumps) [BMW original parts].
• Fuel Pump Strainer / pre filter (common to both in-tank fuel pumps) [BMW original part].
• Front Suspension; Lower arms (N/ S & O/ S) [BMW original parts].
• Rear Suspension; Lateral arm, Front Bushes (N/ S & O/ S) [BMW original parts].
• Rear Suspension Sub-assembly, inc. AHK; All sleeve bushes (N/ S & O/ S) [BMW original parts].
• Rear Suspension; Shock absorber upper mounts (N/ S & O/ S) [BMW original parts].
• Coolant Thermostat; a precautionary replacement [Gates].

DOCUMENTATION PRESENT AND INCLUDED: -
M. O. T Certificate Dates & Mileage;
00 - 01 (27, 128).
01 - 02 (32, 589).
02 - 03 (39, 072).
03 - 04 (43, 521).
04 - 05 (43, 775).
05 - 06 (44, 747).
07 - 08 (45, 378).
09 - 10 (45, 532).
11 - 12 (45, 543).
23 - 24 (45, 556).

Vehicle License Discs;
2002, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08 and 2012

The above list has been compiled from documents within the vehicles 'document pack'.
There are other vehicle servicing and day-to-day running recipes and printouts that will be included in the above pack.

THE COLOUR;
I believe BMW Germany may have chosen this particular colour to mark production completion of the CSi.
The very last Left Hand Drive CSi (produced; December 1996) also given this very same colour (Lilac Metallic; FE86-403x (FQ95-2915)).
I also believe there not to be any other CSi to have received this colour, thus, I believe, making this the only RHD CSi in this colour. That said, BMW Germany are unable to identify which 8 series received which colours during manufacture and as such are unfortunately unable to back-up this final statement - I understand early records do not facilitate the cross-referencing of V. I. N and Paint code data.

The final year of production saw only 10 Right Hand Drive CSi's built. 
This very CSi being the ultimate marquee. 
I have correspondence from BMW Germany as a result of V. I. N verification. I would be more than happy to present this evidence to any potential new owner.

Currently this vehicle does not have a valid M. O. T. certificate. I am holding off obtaining pending interest. 

During my ownership of this particularly unique (unique being 1 of only 4 vehicles, the other 3 being; the first & last LHD CSi's & the first RHD CSi produced) and amazing vehicle I have covered very few miles indeed. The latter part of my ownership having seen even fewer miles driven, if that was even at all possible! 

I know now, and also looking toward the future, I am unable to exercise this vehicle as it were indeed designed and intended. To this extent, I believe it's now time for another to have the opportunity to own not only a fabulous piece of machinery, but also a tremendously rare piece.

PLEASE NOTE;
The V. R. N. is not included in the sale of the Vehicle but may be available separately.

PLEASE NOTE ALSO;
This vehicle has not been subject to restoration and as such is a factory example. 

Thank you for both your time and interest.

alors 1 la couleur fait trés lgbt+++

2 conduite à droite ... rédhibitoire

Hormis la couleur qui fait un peu professionnelle du plaisir masculin, elle se trouve dans un état remarquable. Après oui le volant a droite je ne suis pas fan .

https://www.lacentrale.fr/auto-occasion-annonce-69118619190.html

9 minutes ago, Jeje140i said:

https://www.lacentrale.fr/auto-occasion-annonce-69118619190.html

Une M3 E30 (E36 ?) pour toi @KOOMICHRIS ?

Modifié le 11 avrille 11 avril par z3m

Ça fait bien Mac le combo couleur

4 minutes ago, z3m said:

Une M3 E30 (E36 ?) pour toi @KOOMICHRIS ?

De 94 avec volant mtech 1 une perle

51 minutes ago, ACS3 said:

alors 1 la couleur fait trés lgbt+++

30 minutes ago, julien m said:

Hormis la couleur qui fait un peu professionnelle du plaisir masculin

Les anglo-saxons font souvent des choix de couleurs vives, ce qui est plus sympa que les tristes noir / gris / blanc habituels par chez nous. Et ne présume en rien de leurs moeurs ou profession.

Et puis un V12 avec une boite manuelle, ce n'est quand même pas une voiture de tapette !

Modifié le 11 avrille 11 avril par z3m

Je dirais que en un post t as foutu en l air sur toutes les théories de @Beef sur les boîtes manu vs auto

@z3m

Je roule bien en violet 😅

2 minutes ago, guillaume35 said:

Je dirais que en un post t as foutu en l air sur toutes les théories de @Beef sur les boîtes manu vs auto

C'est que ce sont donc des théories fumeuses...

Modifié le 11 avrille 11 avril par z3m